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ninja_skillz
05-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Hey. Whats the official ruling on the height for the bumpers on a 4x4 to pass recon? Is there a height minimum for the headlights as well? What about lift kits, is there a maximum to stay under?

Tanks ah!

ninja_skillz
05-04-2007, 07:06 AM
Damn. Maybe I should have posted a fling thread about nothing substantial.

lois
05-04-2007, 11:36 AM
geez sorry ah i went out last night? i don't live my entire life on the board as some of you might think.

ANYWAY

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol05_Ch0261-0319/HRS0291/HRS_0291-0035_0001.HTM

§291-35.1 Regulation of bumper height. Maximum bumper heights of motor vehicles shall be determined by the weight category of gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) as measured from a level surface to the highest point on the bottom of the bumper. Maximum heights are as follows:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Front Rear
Passenger vehicles 22 inches 22 inches
4,500 lbs. and under 29 inches 29 inches
4,501 lbs. to 7,500 lbs. 33 inches 33 inches
7,501 lbs. to 10,000 lbs. 35 inches 35 inches

For any vehicle with bumpers or attaching components which have been modified or altered from the original manufacturer's design to conform with the maximum bumper height requirements of this section, the bumper height shall be measured from a level surface to the bottom of the bumper. The vehicle frame rail, measured from a level surface to the bottom of the vehicle frame rail, shall not exceed the attached bumper height. The maximum distance between vehicle body to vehicle frame rail shall not exceed three inches. The distance between the vehicle body to vehicle frame rail shall be measured from the vehicle body mount seat to the vehicle frame rail mount seat. "Bumper", for purposes of this section means a horizontal load bearing protective system installed on a motor vehicle which is constructed of sturdy materials that will not shatter or split upon moderate impact and provides adequate protection against damages to the front and rear external lighting and reflective devices, hood, trunk, doors, painted surfaces, cooling system, exhaust system, and other components during a low speed impact. Any vehicle that exceeds the Vehicle Equipment Safety Commission -Regulation 12 recommended bumper height, based on the gross vehicle weight rating, shall be equipped with an audible reverse warning system. The audible reverse warning system is not required on any open cab vehicle with a distance of less than four feet from the rear of the driver's seating position to the rear most part of the vehicle body. [L 1984, c 291, §1; am L 1985, c 122, §1]

Jesse S.
05-04-2007, 07:29 PM
Has the height location regulation of the License plate changed?

lois
05-04-2007, 07:45 PM
Has the height location regulation of the License plate changed?

yeah there's no restriction now.

Jesse S.
05-04-2007, 07:48 PM
You wouldnt happen to have the reg wouldya?

:ball:

lois
05-04-2007, 07:53 PM
naw it was just recently passed.

now, if FH had its shiiiet together, i could have found the thread that was posted about it and linked you to the article that was written about it.

Jesse i have to go pick up my baby son from the father. when i get back i can see if there's anything online. hold yer pants mmkay? :D

Jesse S.
05-04-2007, 07:54 PM
Mmmmkay Lo.

Holding...

lois
05-05-2007, 03:02 AM
ok i did a random google. thanks for your patience.

the news article: http://starbulletin.com/2007/04/11/news/story09.html

the fixed bill (notice the struck-out parts) : http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessioncurrent/bills/HB1427_.htm

KiQS
05-05-2007, 08:58 AM
so wait lois ... it doesnt matter where the license plate is or how low it is right ? when im going in for recon that is ?

Udrivecrap
05-05-2007, 09:16 AM
i'm gonna check that site out... those things are soooooo long and boring. i need info on a V8 swap into and RX-7 and how to get recon for it. :D

Jesse S.
05-05-2007, 10:32 AM
so wait lois ... it doesnt matter where the license plate is or how low it is right ? when im going in for recon that is ?

No limit height.. but has to be secure to the car. Not sure if having it in the dash is okay..

:plane:

lois
05-05-2007, 11:42 AM
securely mounted to the front, no license plates on dash.

Latka
05-05-2007, 11:47 AM
Jeez can't you guys Google stuff yourselves? ;) All ya gotta do is that or head to the Hawaii State website and you can search the HRS pages 'yerself.

Lazy bums! :)

lois
05-05-2007, 11:55 AM
you think THIS is bad? you should see the guys at FH. they don't read stickies, they make a thread about the same subject even if someone JUST posted one four threads down, they don't use search (granted FH's search was broken for awhile--but they never used it when it WAS working), they b i t ch about tickets they got that was totally their fault and blame the cops for them speeding, and argue about subjects they're really not well-versed in.

now THAT place is a nightmare. :rofl:

Jesse S.
05-05-2007, 11:58 AM
Thanks Lois!

:onyerknees:

Now get back to work.. !

:gtfo1:

ninja_skillz
05-05-2007, 03:27 PM
geez sorry ah i went out last night? i don't live my entire life on the board as some of you might think.

ANYWAY

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol05_Ch0261-0319/HRS0291/HRS_0291-0035_0001.HTM

haha thanks! I knew that would get your attention. hehe..

ArchangelX
05-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Jeez can't you guys Google stuff yourselves? ;) All ya gotta do is that or head to the Hawaii State website and you can search the HRS pages 'yerself.

Lazy bums! :)

But that would defeat the purpose of having a RECON forum. :grin:

KiQS
05-05-2007, 05:24 PM
securely mounted to the front, no license plates on dash.

what about mounted on brackets ? does this qualify ?

http://a930.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_b90515c751722e59e346c231be1d3c01.jpg

lois
05-05-2007, 05:46 PM
But that would defeat the purpose of having a RECON forum. :grin:

yeah stuff changes on the whims of the local DOT head...so as i regretfully informed Mike, the link to that recon document is all we have in terms of online help. aside from us guys.

what about mounted on brackets ? does this qualify ?

http://a930.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_b90515c751722e59e346c231be1d3c01.jpg

oh i don't see anything wrong with that, as long as it is "securely mounted".

my son said to post this smiley for you: :crazydriver:

Udrivecrap
05-05-2007, 05:54 PM
hmmmm... i haven't had time to search the site :gapteeth:

what do you have to do if you install a bigger motor in your car but everything else stays the same? :read:

here you go lois --> :flowers02:

:D

lois
05-05-2007, 05:58 PM
see! Mike it happened again. i got the error page, but luckily this time it got posted.

Udrivecrap
05-05-2007, 06:50 PM
doh! :faint:

i see it now :D

lois
05-05-2007, 07:10 PM
hmmmm... i haven't had time to search the site :gapteeth:

what do you have to do if you install a bigger motor in your car but everything else stays the same? :read:

here you go lois --> :flowers02:

:Dsorry, i didn't not answer you because i didn't want to. i figured i'd let someone post first:lila:

if it came in that model of car no need for recon

but, say, for example, like putting a SBC in a Toy...yeah a recon is recommended, although i don't know how many HPD would bother to look if it looked like a sleeper anyway. hope that makes sense.

Udrivecrap
05-05-2007, 08:43 PM
that's what i figured, thanks :D

KiQS
05-06-2007, 12:15 AM
yeah stuff changes on the whims of the local DOT head...so as i regretfully informed Mike, the link to that recon document is all we have in terms of online help. aside from us guys.



oh i don't see anything wrong with that, as long as it is "securely mounted".

my son said to post this smiley for you: :crazydriver:

lol how old is ur son ?

Rob
05-06-2007, 12:51 AM
sorry, i didn't not answer you because i didn't want to. i figured i'd let someone post first:lila:

if it came in that model of car no need for recon

but, say, for example, like putting a SBC in a Toy...yeah a recon is recommended, although i don't know how many HPD would bother to look if it looked like a sleeper anyway. hope that makes sense.

I remember being told I needed to re-scale my car for engine swap... (state certified weight scale)

eternal.integra
05-22-2007, 10:19 PM
you think THIS is bad? you should see the guys at FH. they don't read stickies, they make a thread about the same subject even if someone JUST posted one four threads down, they don't use search (granted FH's search was broken for awhile--but they never used it when it WAS working), they b i t ch about tickets they got that was totally their fault and blame the cops for them speeding, and argue about subjects they're really not well-versed in.

now THAT place is a nightmare. :rofl:

uhh....now I feel bad I'm guilty of that...should have read the sticky instead of sending PM....:(

BUT HEY! YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ANYWAY! :bananarider:

umm...what the heck is a banana rider?/ these smilies are scary :pokeball:

xurusaibobx
05-23-2007, 12:21 AM
jorden u goin need to remove ur eyelids also... and them fog lights ..lol..

lois
05-24-2007, 05:59 AM
:bananarider:

umm...what the heck is a banana rider?/ these smilies are scary :pokeball:


hahaha :deadhorse:

KiQS
05-24-2007, 08:03 AM
jorden u goin need to remove ur eyelids also... and them fog lights ..lol..

eyelids are off already but ill wait till i have to go in before removing my fogs

eternal.integra
05-29-2007, 06:17 PM
hahaha :deadhorse:

:djcelebrate: I give up with the smilies thing already....:boot: