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Old 08-01-2007, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default I'm bored...somebody post something!

Here I am at work...eating lunch and setting up a laptop for a new user...pretty mindless stuff. All the forums I watch are pretty dead and I'm jonesin for some racin! I've even got Days Of Thunder playing in the back ground on my laptop. I need some other racing videos to watch at work!
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Since you're so bored... maybe you can help me figure out why my car is so loose on the turns. I'm running new x-pattern tires on my HPI mini (fairly new with 2 races already). When i tried my junk bald tamiya tires, the card handled much much better.

another question, what are the advantages of using a spool instead of a diff. My 1/8 serpent 950R is using spool and with front-one way and it handles awesome (on foam of course). I'm trying to duplicate the same thing on my HPI-Pro 4 electric 1/10 (w/ rubber tires for racing of course) and its terrible. I'm sure its tires but I'm no expert...

any suggestion for handling tunning is much appreciated. I'm hook on the 1/12 scale handle.... easy setup and minimal tuning for me anyway.

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Old 08-01-2007, 01:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nobody's posting...darnit...LOL

Yeah that was strange on your car...is the suspension binding anywhere? What camber are you running?

Spool+oneway vs diffs...Jon M would be best at answering that. From my limited knowledge here's what I think. Well the 1/8th also has a tire sized dynamic in that as well because the front tires are smaller and spinning faster then the rear tires because they are overdriven. One-ways tend to give more front bite on high speed tracks but are limited at low speed because of heavy braking. Spools are more durable then diffs and lighter. With the power of a 1/8th I think they eventually ended up with spools for durability and one-ways up front to counter act the push a spool will give you. If you notice 1/8ths also tend to run a good amount of toe out up front as well. Traction wise I think properly set up differentials would probably be better but that is not so easy to achieve and maybe not durable enough for 1/8th. I used to tune much of my F201's handling in the diffs, typically running a tighter rear diff then front which seemed to keep the rear a bit better planted for me.
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What happened to Cp-28 and Cheeken Head, they didn't show up for the last race, were they autocrossing.
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Here I am at work...eating lunch and setting up a laptop for a new user...pretty mindless stuff. All the forums I watch are pretty dead and I'm jonesin for some racin! I've even got Days Of Thunder playing in the back ground on my laptop. I need some other racing videos to watch at work!
Some video's for you

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HRCC COMP #8
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77684

HRCC COMP 3&4
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=19

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Can't watch youtube at work...but the others I can see
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I have heard that the spool in the front on the Pro4 is supposed to be the hot setup for running on asphalt.

Been thinking about trying it myself?

Maybe you need to wear out your X-Patterns more?hehehe My X-Patterns work better now and they are near slicks!!! HEHEHEHE

Maybe run a softer suspension setup?
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Try this!
http://minirally.cool.ne.jp/
This is what I want to do to one of my mini's.
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Aah I was just going to post to that video on youtube!hehehe

Mini Rally Racing Looks Awesome!!!!
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Try www.rct.jp
look for a section called RCT-TV on the left column. There are some vids on Tamiya Grand Prix. I think there is a F103 section as well.
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What happened to Cp-28 and Cheeken Head, they didn't show up for the last race, were they autocrossing.

Who is this Cheeken Head you speak of? LOL!

I've been busy with full scale car stuff and life in general.

YAY SANDBAGGING EVIL BIDDING HOOTERS CHEEKEN WINGS ON A GRASSY KNOLL WITH SPORT TUNED BLACK CANNED STICKY BUSHLESS BURT IN THONGS!
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Who is this Cheeken Head you speak of? LOL!

I've been busy with full scale car stuff and life in general.

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Since you're so bored... maybe you can help me figure out why my car is so loose on the turns. I'm running new x-pattern tires on my HPI mini (fairly new with 2 races already). When i tried my junk bald tamiya tires, the card handled much much better.

another question, what are the advantages of using a spool instead of a diff. My 1/8 serpent 950R is using spool and with front-one way and it handles awesome (on foam of course). I'm trying to duplicate the same thing on my HPI-Pro 4 electric 1/10 (w/ rubber tires for racing of course) and its terrible. I'm sure its tires but I'm no expert...

any suggestion for handling tunning is much appreciated. I'm hook on the 1/12 scale handle.... easy setup and minimal tuning for me anyway.

much mahalo.
As far as your RS-4 mini goes, Avery would be the best source.

I think spool is overkill for the power that we run in. It will also take a toll on your front tires. In general, the faster your car gets, the more push you want for stability. I think that's why the mod class guys run diff or spool. I went with front diff so I have full brakes when I need it. Are you running modern tires? I let Avery try my sorex, and he loved it.
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I'm on the verge of buying an Xbox360. I heard that there's going to be a $30 price drop on the Elite model. BTW I'm still at work too!
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Hey Manny, go home, your working why to hard. Doing any racing up there?
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cool vids thanks for the links...the Japan races though apear to have some sort of bridgeless transponder loop in the parking lot race. I'm curious how they did that. The cars don't seem to have that audible bump when they pass the timing tent.
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What happened to Cp-28 and Cheeken Head, they didn't show up for the last race, were they autocrossing.
stll here the race started kina early for me. getting the full scale stuff ready for this weekend since I sucked badly on the 22nd.
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Hey thanks for responding and for your comments. I'm not sure what kind of tires I have. Its a use set from a while back. I'll probaby end up picking up new set of Sorex tires. I'm going to try and move the spool in the front and see if it makes a big difference. The PRO-4 is a nice car but it requires some tuning. Unlike the 1/12 which for is minimal tuning, the 1/12 handles so smooth.

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As far as your RS-4 mini goes, Avery would be the best source.

I think spool is overkill for the power that we run in. It will also take a toll on your front tires. In general, the faster your car gets, the more push you want for stability. I think that's why the mod class guys run diff or spool. I went with front diff so I have full brakes when I need it. Are you running modern tires? I let Avery try my sorex, and he loved it.
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stll here the race started kina early for me. getting the full scale stuff ready for this weekend since I sucked badly on the 22nd.

LOL kinda early...LOL...the mains started about the same time as they used to and you still didn't make it by then...LOL
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Hey Manny, go home, your working why to hard. Doing any racing up there?
The more work I get done now the faster I'll get back to my wife and RC car racing (in that order)! I could be wrapping this thing up by the end of August. I haven't done much racing except for the virtual type (Forza 2) but I did get a Cyclone S to keep me busy.
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The more work I get done now the faster I'll get back to my wife and RC car racing (in that order)! I could be wrapping this thing up by the end of August. I haven't done much racing except for the virtual type (Forza 2) but I did get a Cyclone S to keep me busy.
Thats good to hear, maybe you can make the 1st September race. BTW I'm not buying that order unless your wife reads this forum. hahahahaha LOL
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Hey Manny good to hear from ya

Sweet you got a Cyclone S! I have been interested in seeing how one of those run?
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Cool...It'll be good to have you back Manny...Frank needs some competition in 1/12th scale!
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LOL kinda early...LOL...the mains started about the same time as they used to and you still didn't make it by then...LOL
I rather like the reeeeeely late starts lol
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BOOO

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LOL! Congrats, Silver Motor FTW!

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The more work I get done now the faster I'll get back to my wife and RC car racing (in that order)! I could be wrapping this thing up by the end of August. I haven't done much racing except for the virtual type (Forza 2) but I did get a Cyclone S to keep me busy.
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